dont play with same IP but different devices, even though 2 people are playing

[AngelChong22]

Hi to All, i just want to comment regarding this as this will give me additional knowledge.

1st of All i dont know the person's involve but upon reading this whole conversation. GM has a point as they will follow the server rules set for the server but the players involve has a point too.

1. Why we immidietly banned the players, why we dont have the process before comming to conclusion? Why dont we communicate with them before giving sanctions? As once said like in every country there is rules beyond those rules there is a process for everything after investigating and before conclusion. Not just for this but for every player that gets banned Atlist we communicate
2. For this multiple accounts - i get it that the criteria u are using is ip address where the account log most so eventually we will conlude that he/she is the owner, but whats wrong if someone is playing his account, the person who is playing.it is also investing electricity, time and effort same as other players do? As long as he is not using bot, i dont think we have a problem, as this consume equal to a normal player.
3. Benefiting from multiple accounts played by friends or family members- so whats the use of account bound itemS? That restrict from transfering items? Yes some of the items are  can be transferred but go back to number 2, this was gain = to effort or energy same of ordinary player, as this requires investing time effort and energy. Lets put it like this what if i decide to play but i will just give what i gain to my co players that already friend of mine in the server? Whats the difference?

Im not refering to someone here but im just pointing out my opinion that i dont see any violation on the player we talked about in this thread

Lastly lets teach our support players some manners,they are officers here yet they are arrogant and stuborn, maybe u should start changing criteria on selecting players to be part of GM team, not just about pure knowledge but also someone who has right atittude and good communication skills  u cant just tell players that the server dont need them.  We players also one of the reason why the server is alive, remember we are voting yes we gain, but server gain too, most of the veteran players here have a good intention on recruting and helping newbies, my question is SP GM Admins? Are we doing that also? Everytime i log in, there is a message to help others. Are we still living up to that vision and mission of the server? Think again. There is no bad for being strict but u can be friendly also while being strict, and try to listen sometimes to what other players suggestion. Dont just go by the rules be flexible in some ways. Lets work to make the server more alive by helping bring new players and old players.

Thank YoU

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Hi to All, i just want to comment regarding this as this will give me additional knowledge.

1st of All i dont know the person's involve but upon reading this whole conversation. GM has a point as they will follow the server rules set for the server but the players involve has a point too.

1. Why we immidietly banned the players, why we dont have the process before comming to conclusion? Why dont we communicate with them before giving sanctions? As once said like in every country there is rules beyond those rules there is a process for everything after investigating and before conclusion. Not just for this but for every player that gets banned Atlist we communicate
2. For this multiple accounts - i get it that the criteria u are using is ip address where the account log most so eventually we will conlude that he/she is the owner, but whats wrong if someone is playing his account, the person who is playing.it is also investing electricity, time and effort same as other players do? As long as he is not using bot, i dont think we have a problem, as this consume equal to a normal player.
3. Benefiting from multiple accounts played by friends or family members- so whats the use of account bound itemS? That restrict from transfering items? Yes some of the items are  can be transferred but go back to number 2, this was gain = to effort or energy same of ordinary player, as this requires investing time effort and energy. Lets put it like this what if i decide to play but i will just give what i gain to my co players that already friend of mine in the server? Whats the difference?

Im not refering to someone here but im just pointing out my opinion that i dont see any violation on the player we talked about in this thread

Lastly lets teach our support players some manners,they are officers here yet they are arrogant and stuborn, maybe u should start changing criteria on selecting players to be part of GM team, not just about pure knowledge but also someone who has right atittude and good communication skills  u cant just tell players that the server dont need them.  We players also one of the reason why the server is alive, remember we are voting yes we gain, but server gain too, most of the veteran players here have a good intention on recruting and helping newbies, my question is SP GM Admins? Are we doing that also? Everytime i log in, there is a message to help others. Are we still living up to that vision and mission of the server? Think again. There is no bad for being strict but u can be friendly also while being strict, and try to listen sometimes to what other players suggestion. Dont just go by the rules be flexible in some ways. Lets work to make the server more alive by helping bring new players and old players.

Thank YoU

"Lastly lets teach our support players some manners." this is true, honestly these sp can just forums cause ingame = no skill. prove me wrong? mr imminent fight me same class v same class after my unban. sura vs sura, gen vs gen, sorc vs sorc? your 3 mains bo3. loooooool.
it is gm's fault keep blending the rules, first we talk about dual, second we talk about ip, third we talk about ownership of the account. gms all proven to be wrong, keep changing the ban reason, pls ty.

[Quaoar]

"Lastly lets teach our support players some manners." this is true, honestly these sp can just forums cause ingame = no skill. prove me wrong? mr imminent fight me same class v same class after my unban. sura vs sura, gen vs gen, sorc vs sorc? your 3 mains bo3. loooooool.
it is gm's fault keep blending the rules, first we talk about dual, second we talk about ip, third we talk about ownership of the account. gms all proven to be wrong, keep changing the ban reason, pls ty.

nothing was changed. the evidences all checks out. all those reasons are all evidences against what u did. blending the rules? u just read and choose parts that are convenient for u and ur friends.

r u that stupid not to understand or ur just pretending to be a moron just to blame the gms, staff, admins for ur own stupidity.

[Fawkes]

"Lastly lets teach our support players some manners." this is true, honestly these sp can just forums cause ingame = no skill. prove me wrong? mr imminent fight me same class v same class after my unban. sura vs sura, gen vs gen, sorc vs sorc? your 3 mains bo3. loooooool.
it is gm's fault keep blending the rules, first we talk about dual, second we talk about ip, third we talk about ownership of the account. gms all proven to be wrong, keep changing the ban reason, pls ty.

what they are thinking about right now after explaining why you're banned

[Imminent]

"Lastly lets teach our support players some manners." this is true, honestly these sp can just forums cause ingame = no skill. prove me wrong? mr imminent fight me same class v same class after my unban. sura vs sura, gen vs gen, sorc vs sorc? your 3 mains bo3. loooooool.
it is gm's fault keep blending the rules, first we talk about dual, second we talk about ip, third we talk about ownership of the account. gms all proven to be wrong, keep changing the ban reason, pls ty.

I don't know whether I should feel bad about your behaviour or feel sorry for the staff team for always trying to keep their cool while dealing with a person like you. Why do you have to always be out of topic each time and bring more than enough people that aren't even directly involved with your case. I wonder why? Oh wait, you people are known for always doing this kind of thing for attention. I didn't even bother joining a tournament I was invited to that was giving a lot of zenny, why do you think I would bother wasting my time on you? I'm not about to waste my time on someone who's obviously trying to do things to prove himself because I don't feel the need to do that here.

This is the very reason why I don't even bother doing anything in the game anymore lately. I would just tab in and out to fish while playing different games that I actually find entertaining and enjoyable. This particular one had nothing to offer for the past few months but stress and frustration so what makes you think I give as much shit as you do? I applied for the SP position with the intention of nothing but to help by using my knowledge as one of the current veterans in the game. I had been doing my job and would frequently answer requests in game by the name of Aster-,Anarchy- or even Acidmath which a lot of players who'd most of the time use @request could vouch for. So what's there for me to do other than my job? Talk like someone who'd show more than enough respect to a person like you? You clearly don't deserve the least bit of my respect considering not only you are toxic to me, you are being toxic towards anyone that isn't part of your circle. Besides I'm also just a normal player like you except my name is in yellow here and there isn't much difference between you and me so stop with the accuses of power abuses. I know for a fact that my friends are not the ones who are leaking information and staff team conversations because there's literally nothing for us to benefit from doing it but here you always are people with your assumptions. Nice way to entertain yourselves and to get by, eh?

You people never showed any respect towards any of our current staff members except for the ones leaking information of our conversation to you so why should you expect it differently from us? I mean, true I sound so rude but why should I extend my patience for someone as toxic as you when i'm not even getting paid for this shit? Just stop with your pathetic attempts to make the staff team look worse than you people already think it is and be thankful you're still in the game and not permanently banned after what you people had tried to do in these past months. Honestly I've already said it too many times that if you dislike being here and hate the staff team this much, just go back to your friend's server where you people are using @item command to gear yourselves just like what you people had been accusing rad for. As far as I'm concerned, server would be much better without you. Would have less players but at least it wouldn't be as stressful.

@Topic it was already explained to you too many times what evidences and how they came up with the conclusion of your case so I don't see the reason why you should be involving any more people with the attempt to help you while invalidating the staff team's decision.

Oh right, it's like you people have a procedure that if your wishes aren't met, you'll have to bring person #1 til person #16 and hope something gets done. But it didn't work so now you're using your trap card where you talk about how sp should talk to you with respect and manners when you've been talking here and there like an animal. A dog on drugs. Woof Woof!

This will be my last response in this thread because I no longer want to involve myself with another drama that you successfully started once again. Congrats though

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I don't know whether I should feel bad about your behaviour or feel sorry for the staff team for always trying to keep their cool while dealing with a person like you. Why do you have to always be out of topic each time and bring more than enough people that aren't even directly involved with your case. I wonder why? Oh wait, you people are known for always doing this kind of thing for attention. I didn't even bother joining a tournament I was invited to that was giving a lot of zenny, why do you think I would bother wasting my time on you? I'm not about to waste my time on someone who's obviously trying to do things to prove himself because I don't feel the need to do that here.

This is the very reason why I don't even bother doing anything in the game anymore lately. I would just tab in and out to fish while playing different games that I actually find entertaining and enjoyable. This particular one had nothing to offer for the past few months but stress and frustration so what makes you think I give as much shit as you do? I applied for the SP position with the intention of nothing but to help by using my knowledge as one of the current veterans in the game. I had been doing my job and would frequently answer requests in game by the name of Aster-,Anarchy- or even Acidmath which a lot of players who'd most of the time use @request could vouch for. So what's there for me to do other than my job? Talk like someone who'd show more than enough respect to a person like you? You clearly don't deserve the least bit of my respect considering not only you are toxic to me, you are being toxic towards anyone that isn't part of your circle. Besides I'm also just a normal player like you except my name is in yellow here and there isn't much difference between you and me so stop with the accuses of power abuses. I know for a fact that my friends are not the ones who are leaking information and staff team conversations because there's literally nothing for us to benefit from doing it but here you always are people with your assumptions. Nice way to entertain yourselves and to get by, eh?

You people never showed any respect towards any of our current staff members except for the ones leaking information of our conversation to you so why should you expect it differently from us? I mean, true I sound so rude but why should I extend my patience for someone as toxic as you when i'm not even getting paid for this shit? Just stop with your pathetic attempts to make the staff team look worse than you people already think it is and be thankful you're still in the game and not permanently banned after what you people had tried to do in these past months. Honestly I've already said it too many times that if you dislike being here and hate the staff team this much, just go back to your friend's server where you people are using @item command to gear yourselves just like what you people had been accusing rad for. As far as I'm concerned, server would be much better without you. Would have less players but at least it wouldn't be as stressful.

@Topic it was already explained to you too many times what evidences and how they came up with the conclusion of your case so I don't see the reason why you should be involving any more people with the attempt to help you while invalidating the staff team's decision.

Oh right, it's like you people have a procedure that if your wishes aren't met, you'll have to bring person #1 til person #16 and hope something gets done. But it didn't work so now you're using your trap card where you talk about how sp should talk to you with respect and manners when you've been talking here and there like an animal. A dog on drugs. Woof Woof!

This will be my last response in this thread because I no longer want to involve myself with another drama that you successfully started once again. Congrats though

nobody asked you to come here, youre just being dumb as usual. obviously, you dont wanna fight since youre not confident with your skill. forever pussy + loser.

[soulkaizer]

Neglecting the fact that it's your action that caused you to get banned. You know the rules about dual clienting is prohibited during events and other features in-game and is bannable. Sharing the same IP w/ your brother gives you a high probability of being suspected of dual clienting and you didn't so anything about it like giving a heads up to the staff/admit about your current situation. Jokes on you.

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Neglecting the fact that it's your action that caused you to get banned. You know the rules about dual clienting is prohibited during events and other features in-game and is bannable.  Sharing the same IP w/ your brother gives you a high probability of being suspected of dual clienting and you didn't so anything about it like giving a heads up to the staff/admit about your current situation. Jokes on you.

jokes on you, so many people play with same ip different device. it is common sense that this will eventually happen if you play with ur relatives, etc. sharing ip? you must be stupid  to think that each member of your family should have each of their own internet if they wanna play the same game. what a clown, s> brain.

[Hippo Crit]

This brother, is he with us right now?

If you are here can you make this glass move.

[AngelChong22]

Hi Imminent, like what i've said i dont know the player on this topic, u always assume that everytime there is a player agree on other side its either they friend or guildmates, everyone can say their opinion and observation regarding the issue here, and we are doing it calmly, btw try to check  the manners of the people on the opposite side as if not well mannered. 

As SP player - like what ive said you are a officer u should act calm and nicely on situation like this, let this be a learning to you. Being veteran and well knowledge in the game is not enough, should come with patience and understanding, and always try to be a better person, this will happen again in the future,i hope u can handle it correctly.

 Thank You and Have a nice day